Copy from Volvo club forum, effects all historic vehicles
Good afternoon
This is an urgent call-to-action!
You may be aware of the 9 May Government announcement of a wide-ranging consultation about the registration of historic vehicles https://www.fbhvc.co.uk/news/article/df ... t-vehicles .
In total, the consultation asks 50 questions in 12 subject headings. It covers all historic vehicles - not solely cars - of all types, and are all represented within the Federation.
Please find attached a Press Release (in Word and PDF) explaining how the Federation has set out its provisional position on each of the areas and is calling for your feedback in an online questionnaire.
We are seeking your club’s and your members’ feedback, along with that from our wider supporter membership and community.
This will help shape the Federation’s formal response to the consultation, on a topic of great importance that affects the entire movement.
The consultation offers FBHVC member clubs the opportunity to shape the creation and evolution of policies to preserve our ability to restore, register, and use historic vehicles efficiently and fairly for tomorrow’s roads.
We strongly encourage you to share this information – and importantly the link https://evidence.fbhvc.co.uk/ – with all your members and wider historic vehicle friends (such as through social media).
The more people who respond to us the better, as this will ensure that our collective voices will carry considerable weight.
It’s taken a very long time - and a huge amount of extremely hard work by our dedicated team - to get to this position, as we battled on your behalf.
Now, it’s over to you!
Kind regards
Mel Holley
Secretary, Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs Ltd
Message from FBHVC - DVLA consultation on historic vehicles
Re: Message from FBHVC - DVLA consultation on historic vehicles
My thoughts that I see issue with
Q1
"which is not used as means of daily transport and which is therefore part of our technical and cultural heritage"
There is no reason to say not used as means of daily transport, this could end up limiting use of classics
Q2, very concerning to have separate registration, the change of status as existing works perfectly fine
Q4, "There should however be a distinction between vehicles restored or preserved using a majority of period parts and replicas newly built with predominately new parts" The current system is questionable in the use of new/used parts. For example you might have an Austin 7 with a body beyond repair and a new body made in another style (as done in period) and the status of these vehicles could be put into question
Q7, • It should be more than 30 years rather than 25 years to match the historic vehicle definition. in cases such as a mini or beetle with long production runs there should be no reason that some parts can not be newer. The same goes for replacing engines that are rare or perhaps changing fuel type/electric conversion
Q9, a replica should be where mostly new parts are used to produce a new car rather than rebuilding an existing car
Q13, EV conversions can require major modification. New identity should only be when no resemblance to the original car is left
Q15, Kit cars have been around since the start of cars. Austin 7's being the oldest common one to see. Many kits are based on a existing chassis or running gear of a single car. Where the base is over 25 years old it should be considered historic
Q20 I fail to see how a change of power unit stops a car being historic
Q1
"which is not used as means of daily transport and which is therefore part of our technical and cultural heritage"
There is no reason to say not used as means of daily transport, this could end up limiting use of classics
Q2, very concerning to have separate registration, the change of status as existing works perfectly fine
Q4, "There should however be a distinction between vehicles restored or preserved using a majority of period parts and replicas newly built with predominately new parts" The current system is questionable in the use of new/used parts. For example you might have an Austin 7 with a body beyond repair and a new body made in another style (as done in period) and the status of these vehicles could be put into question
Q7, • It should be more than 30 years rather than 25 years to match the historic vehicle definition. in cases such as a mini or beetle with long production runs there should be no reason that some parts can not be newer. The same goes for replacing engines that are rare or perhaps changing fuel type/electric conversion
Q9, a replica should be where mostly new parts are used to produce a new car rather than rebuilding an existing car
Q13, EV conversions can require major modification. New identity should only be when no resemblance to the original car is left
Q15, Kit cars have been around since the start of cars. Austin 7's being the oldest common one to see. Many kits are based on a existing chassis or running gear of a single car. Where the base is over 25 years old it should be considered historic
Q20 I fail to see how a change of power unit stops a car being historic