Good morning
Does anyone have have any info or experience of fitting a heater into a 10
Thanks
D
Heater
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phil_taylor
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Re: Heater
I did this over 45 years ago. I cut a 5" square hole in the front of the nearside tool box under the bonnet. Fitted a heat exchanger behind (from a Mini?), made slits in the tool box floor and blanked off that end of the tool box. Connections to top and bottom hose and relied on thermosyphon to get hot and forward movement to push air through. Very good in hot weather but useless in Winter.
10 Years later, I used a circular Landrover type heater mounted above the gearbox with both connections going onto the top hose. Used a water pump (as used by upright Ford Pops) strapped to the dynamo running on the outside of the fanbelt. I bought the pump second hand but they were available new with fitting kits in the 50s-60s. Worked better but not very good in mid-winter. Problem I had was the pump seizing after about 30,000 miles. Happened twice so I gave up.
I have seen a 3" tube under the bonnet with a funnel on the front against the radiator core - the other end of the tube going through the bulkhead. Relied on the forward movement to push air through. (Was told it was a little better than no heater in Winter but good in Summer.)
The other method I looked at but did not complete, was welding a large steel tube, say 3" dia to the outside of the exhaust pipe, ducted it into the car with a fan, as per air-cooled VWs. Seemed more promising?
Never seen one that really works in cold weather!
Cheers
Phil
10 Years later, I used a circular Landrover type heater mounted above the gearbox with both connections going onto the top hose. Used a water pump (as used by upright Ford Pops) strapped to the dynamo running on the outside of the fanbelt. I bought the pump second hand but they were available new with fitting kits in the 50s-60s. Worked better but not very good in mid-winter. Problem I had was the pump seizing after about 30,000 miles. Happened twice so I gave up.
I have seen a 3" tube under the bonnet with a funnel on the front against the radiator core - the other end of the tube going through the bulkhead. Relied on the forward movement to push air through. (Was told it was a little better than no heater in Winter but good in Summer.)
The other method I looked at but did not complete, was welding a large steel tube, say 3" dia to the outside of the exhaust pipe, ducted it into the car with a fan, as per air-cooled VWs. Seemed more promising?
Never seen one that really works in cold weather!
Cheers
Phil
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peter_winney
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Re: Heater
Phil is clearly the expert on this having tried several different methods.
I have not, tho' my '34 Ten has an off-take in the header tank someone had fitted. In the past I have seen 10s (other than Phil's) fitted with the Ford add-on pump running off the back of the belt as he describes. Some kind of pump is needed to circulate the hot water into the car and around whatever heater matrix is used. Mini and Land Rover both I have seen mentioned elsewhere, and also an electric pump suggested - possibly in old magazines or in the old technical reprints from said mags.
I have tried the traditional stone hot water bottle for the passenger but they do go cold in time without replenishment (water bottle and passenger).
I have not, tho' my '34 Ten has an off-take in the header tank someone had fitted. In the past I have seen 10s (other than Phil's) fitted with the Ford add-on pump running off the back of the belt as he describes. Some kind of pump is needed to circulate the hot water into the car and around whatever heater matrix is used. Mini and Land Rover both I have seen mentioned elsewhere, and also an electric pump suggested - possibly in old magazines or in the old technical reprints from said mags.
I have tried the traditional stone hot water bottle for the passenger but they do go cold in time without replenishment (water bottle and passenger).
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Ivor Hawkins
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Re: Heater
Like Phil, I’ve been driving pre-war Austins since dinosaurs roamed the earth and tried all sorts of heating, including on one occasion what I was told was a cockpit heater from a bomber (though I think it was more likely from an old bus).
I’ve tried the old Smiths “fug stirrers” as well, but none could really be described as successful. I had the old funnel on the radiator core an a three inch duct coming through the bulkhead on the Seven, but took that off as well.
With today’s modern, thermally efficient clothing I just wrap up warm in the winter…it’s a whole lot simpler!
I’ve tried the old Smiths “fug stirrers” as well, but none could really be described as successful. I had the old funnel on the radiator core an a three inch duct coming through the bulkhead on the Seven, but took that off as well.
With today’s modern, thermally efficient clothing I just wrap up warm in the winter…it’s a whole lot simpler!