10/4 History

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Jasper
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10/4 History

Post by Jasper » Tue Mar 01, 2022 8:32 am

My 1933 10/4 was rebuilt at the Llangollen Motor Museum in the early 80's with the original registration plate APH 131. It was then re-registered in 1983 with the current number ESL 214. I purchased the car in July 2021, so any previous information on either number would be much appreciated

Car No. GC15592

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Re: 10/4 History

Post by peter_winney » Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:36 am

APH 131, Chassis No G 18508, Car No GC 15592 a 1933 Austin 10 saloon, Green and Black, was known to ATDC in 1991 when the car was owned by a member living in Hertfordshire. Date of 1st registration is not known but probably about June 1933. Engine No. not known.

Change in Reg No must have been after 1991. But Swansea computer might not know any better as the old registration No. may never have been put onto the computer which was set up in 1978 (and is a "depressingly stupid machine "- to misquote Douglas Adams). Many owners of cars that were not taxed and running often did not register their car details on the computer at Swansea (although required to so so) and as a result often lost their original registration No. when they tried to re-register the car to use on the road.
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Re: 10/4 History

Post by Jasper » Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:54 pm

Many thanks once again Peter
I am in contact with Llangollen Motor Museum and will be speaking to the previous owners son tomorrow. His father owned it at the restoration and owned the museum.
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Re: 10/4 History

Post by Jasper » Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:46 pm

Spoke with the previous owners son, who owns the Llangollen Museum. Turns out that ESL214 was actually a museum exhibit and was sold on after two or three years. He currently has a couple of sevens on display. A little bit more for my history file!!!

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Re: 10/4 History

Post by peter_winney » Wed Mar 02, 2022 4:47 pm

That is good as they may have some old documents such as the RF60 Registration Book. This showed past owners and annual tax paid (until recording the latter on the RF60 was dropped in 1968) but were usually destroyed when the car went onto the Swansea computer. If an RF60 survives it is normally a "continuation book" because the annual stamp soon used up pages. Some owners preserve annual MoT certificates which can give a useful history as to mileage etc.
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