1933 austin 10/4 CLIFTON

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1933 austin 10/4 CLIFTON

Post by KWEJSU » Tue Nov 24, 2020 1:08 pm

Can somebody please help me with my clutch. when i try to reverse the car goes jerking and its very difficult to reverse. Any help is appreciated thank you all

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Re: 1933 austin 10/4 CLIFTON

Post by peter_winney » Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:54 pm

Jerking and judder likely to be worn clutch linings or oil on the linings. More noticeable on reverse and 1st gears.
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Re: 1933 austin 10/4 CLIFTON

Post by phil_taylor » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:08 pm

I agree to a point, Peter.
Newnes' article on redoing the gearbox and clutch says oil on the linings causes snatching and jerking. My experience is that oil on the linings tends to result in a slipping clutch when it gets hot - nothing more. (In redoing 17 engines I have never found a clutch lining down to the rivets - a few were choked with charcoal from slipping! All were oily. So I do not think it is likely to be oil or worn linings.)
My suggestion is that it is more likely that the pressure plate is not meeting the driven plate evenly perhaps due to toggle wear so one section of the lining is biting before the whole lot, plus if the gearbox and axle are fairly slack with backlash and worn bearings? Austin 10 clutches should never be slipped. Always let in the clutch as gently as poss at as near to tickover as possible - before the amazing acceleration. Early clutches were very 'harsh'.
Alternatively start off in 2nd - again slipping the clutch to a minimum. It is also suggested that the driven plate may be sticking on the splines - unlikely with the film of oil inside all reasonable mileage clutch housings. The splines might be worn? Can't think of anything else.
I am here to be corrected as it is only my personal opinion and experience.

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Re: 1933 austin 10/4 CLIFTON

Post by peter_christie » Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:02 pm

While I bow to Phil's considerably greater experience with Tens than mine - I've never even driven a thirties Ten although I have driven a 1946 GS1 and a 'Tilly' - this seems to be an Austin thing. I can make it happen on my '36 Twelve and in my youth we often noticed this behaviour (mostly in reverse, seldom in first) on BS1 Sixteens and A40 vans. So the unlined driven plate, oily or dry can't be the sole cause of this phenomenon. I've heard garages blame it on "polished plate", no doubt because it's work for the workshop, but I think backlash in the engine/gearbox mountings may be the ultimate cause.
So KWEJSU you aren't the first, by a long way.
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Re: 1933 austin 10/4 CLIFTON

Post by ted_prest » Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:30 pm

I agree with Phil on his comments,my Sherborne does it sometimes only in reverse,so if it was oil etc then why doesnt it do it all the time???i have had many Austins over the past 55 years or so pretty much all the same but they were never a problem,never slipped,never had to replace one Ted

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Re: 1933 austin 10/4 CLIFTON

Post by bob_allison » Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:02 pm

Sounds like engine mounts , possibly interacting with pedal linkage .

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